Well, it’s sundae, so I’m gonna preach. Y’know, there are some pages, generally pages that belong to well-known people, with LOTS of readership, where I run into folks who just can’t seem to abide anyone who has a different take on whatever… It’s nothing new, at least not in the usual way, it’s quite common— but it’s so unpleasant and the feelings I get from certain individuals is unpleasant, and so my instinct is to RUN AWAY… Usually I do run away. This time the fellow continued to carry on, ranting at me, insulting me and so on, like a school-yard bully. Well, I am no stranger to bullies. I grew up with some.
Today, I started my day with actually going back to a brief conversation with that guy, who really didn’t “get it” and didn’t have any desire to get it, and it made me think about how I could respond… Here’s what I said, and I worked hard on this response…
After that, there’s a video, about an hour long, about what has happened and is probably still happening, in the UK, in hospitals, and it’s hard to watch, but it’s very, very well done, in my opinion. And btw, the Pooge (mai altar ego) is safely tucked into her Human Suit this morning. I’ll let her out in a little while… (She says to tell you, avec des waggie tails, ”Woof, mai pals!”)
A RESPONSE:
The Word Herder
Woofings
2 mins ago (nod anymore, says Edit Dog)
Terribly sorry to not come up to your standards. I've known for 40 years about English youths ripping off musical ideas from American Negro men... But it wasn't all theft, it was also a communion of souls across the gaps of age and of location. If it hadn't been for the English boys, rock n roll might not have exploded the way it did, the men who brought us the blues might have stayed in obscurity because of American racism, but it merged with English kids and their musical history... and we all benefitted! Blues was the heart of that. I grew up in the Sixties, and it was great. Muddy Waters, yeah.
You know, it's always work when people have a conversation IN PERSON, to get points across, particularly when they don't know each other, and are not on the same page, so to speak. The internet is great for research and videos and lots of other stuff; however, I find it extremely difficult to have a conversation with strangers, very often. There's no facial expression, no tone of voice, no smiles or soft tones... Just typed words.
I have a direct approach, and it's also how I talk, but there's that nuance stuff missing, the voice, expression, etc., and so, very often, I find that a certain type of discussion partner who feels threatened needs a LOT of soft words, like if I were speaking to a child, to assure them that I'm not trying to ATTACK THEM. I find there are a LOT of people who simply cannot abide being wrong, or thought of as wrong. NO CHALLENGES. How dull that must be!
Perhaps there are a lot of people out there who ARE trying to attack. I try not to be insulting, but I find that is more often than not the reaction to direct questions, no matter how I phrase them. Particularly AMERICANS, and even more often, young Americans. Well, I find it much less trying to simply avoid those people. That's why I left the conversation. And what is your response? Insults and complaints about how I worded my attempt to clarify what I was asking. Flare-up and insult, that seems to be the thing these days. Perhaps you are a young person... The young have been trained this way. I was trained as a journalist when I was young.
I have a very direct approach, and this is not the first time people have decided I am "messing with them." So sorry to tread on your very delicate toes, but I do know what I'm talking about, and I try to find others who are curious, not who feel attacked or on the spot by a simple conversation. I have a need to learn and discover and discuss. It's just curiosity, and It's frustrating to me that soooo many young folks, and older ones, too, simply cannot abide a challenge to their ideology or belief structure. It happens often. Hence the abrupt departure: I recognize the signs of futility.
So, you might understand that nothing I say about science is anything to do with YOU, the conversation "partner," as it were. It's not about WINNING, it's not about putting you on a lower level from me, it's about INFORMATION and trying, with some success, to get people to QUESTION what they've been told, what we've all been told for almost two hundred years, in the case of medicine, generally, and vaccines in particular. When I point out a book, I do that so I don't have to try and tell you what the book says, which COULD MEAN writing a book myself, kind of like now, trying to explain how difficult communication can be, with people who are already in their battle gear and looking for any excuse to explode all over someone else and WIN. We apparently have different goals-- it seems you are about winning, by insults if nothing else, while I am about exploration and questioning the "narrative."
Hope this helps you understand why I quit the conversation. It's unpleasant to me to FIGHT with people over ideas and information and be insulted when I try to explain what I'm talking about. I am a seeker, not a fight-picker. I am old, grandma age; I remember when there was DEBATE, not FIGHTING. I LIKE debate, I always learn things, no matter whose ideas end up being accepted. Sometimes it's a TIE. The objective isn't "winning," necessarily, but always about LEARNING. I have learned, over and over, that these kinds of discussions end up being FIGHTS far too often.
I think this kind of interaction is very difficult with people under say, 45 or so. It's sad to see how the Nasties have corrupted the young. Well, good luck. I don't take your insults personally, so no hard feeling on my end. Ignorance is not always bliss, my friend. And we're all ignorant about something, if not a LOT of things, myself included. I keep learning. And I'm learning that trying to talk to people who cannot get beyond their own ego is too much work, unless I'm in a Patient Grandma Mode-- I don't enjoy coddling people and walking on mine fields. So, usually, my response is, fuck that. ^_^
In parting, the "New Biology" is more like what Florence Nightingale was telling us... She was RIGHT. But money took over and look what we got: COVID. THAT is what I was trying to get to. Now, I'll leave it at that. Cheers.
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And now, for something completely different! But it’s not funny, I just felt it’s important and we need to be aware, if we’re not already… This video is about an hour long… get some tissues. It’s tough stuff. It’s about people’s lives, and deaths.
https://www.ukcolumn.org/video/playing-god
PS: Da dog is OUT… I’ve turned on Stripe, so… send bacon! Woof! I am still working on getting my Tiny Paintings and T-shirts biz going… How, Where, WEAR… Coming along and learning new stuff alllll da time. I will get a PO box soon, but I can make painties and shirts for anyone NOW. Lemme know. All this technical stuff is NOD mai purrview, so BEAR wiff me…
Futility is arguing with a bot. Expressing ourselves via the Internet may make us feel happy and self-confident for a few hours; but it is ultimately as valuable as listening to a robot customer service chatbot keep you in a loop for hours.
Keep on keeping on Jaan, you've got a rare talent for getting a point across.
Sad video, blooming iatrogenesis😒